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Suffering & Poverty vs Health & Wealth

NOTE (1/12/18): We’re all learning and growing.  Some of the stuff I’ve written in these old posts may no longer be exactly what I believe or think, or at least may not be articulated the way I’d do it nowadays.  I preserve them in an attempt it to be transparent about my journey, and in the hopes that readers may still glean some insight from the core ideas found here.  Thanks for journeying with me!

 

 

So here’s a question: I know of pastors who are rich, popular, drive Lexuses and live in nice houses.  I also know of pastors who have nothing, are hated by the world, and are being tortured and killed for their faith.   So…who’s more like Jesus?

Believe it or not, depending on what kind of church you’re from, your answer might be different.  I’ve been a part of both sides and wrestled with this basic issue for a long time, and finally I think I’ve got a conclusion worth sharing.

If you think this issue is already cut & dried, contrast these ideas from the Bible below.

 (speaking of a God-fearing man) “Wealth and riches are in his house, and his righteousness endures forever.”  (Psalm 112) “To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless” (1 Corinthians 4:11)
“You still the hunger of those you cherish, they store up wealth for their children” (Psalm 17:14)
“I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children begging bread.  The lion may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing.” (Psalm 37:25)
 …{I’ve been} in weariness and painfulness, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness…(2 Corinthians 11:24-27)
Jesus said “Seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and {food and clothing} will be added to you as well” (Matthew 6:33) “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first…If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.” (John 15:20)
Make every effort to live in peace with all men… (Hebrews 12:14){The disciples were} praising God and enjoying the favor of the people.  And the Lord added daily to their number those who were being saved. (Acts 2:47) Jesus said “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad…” (Matthew 5:11-12)
Jesus said “No one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields—along with persecutions—and in the age to come eternal life.” (Mark 10:29-30)  Jesus said “I have come to turn “a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law..” (Matthew 10:35)
 The favor and prosperity of Job, David, Solomon, Abraham, etc.  The persecution of the apostles and much of the early church

The Point

I’d like to get right to what my thoughts are, if that’s alright.  First off, If God’s ultimate desire was for us to live a sad, pathetic existence, He would not have started us out in a paradise. And He would not have provided a way back into it. This is foundational – God’s ideal of life is, well, heaven. In fact, our assignment on earth is to bring back that reality.

And that’s also the conclusion of this article. The end.

“But that doesn’t answer the questions you raised.”  Maybe – but if Jesus didn’t make it black and white, who are we to judge?  What if this isn’t the right question to ask?  Think of it this way: Jesus marveled at the faith of a centurion (Matthew 8:10). Centurions are rich. He also commended the poor widow in Luke 21:3 for her tiny offering. She was, um, poor. Jesus didn’t discriminate, did he?  Let’s explore this further.

A Rich Man Can Enter the Kingdom

Two realitiesSo the Bible says that “a rich man cannot enter the Kingdom of God”.  But think of this: Was Jesus poor? You don’t know that. I mean, when Jesus told his disciples to feed five thousand men, the disciples actually implied that they had enough money to go buy food for the whole crowd (Luke 8:13). How are you supposed to throw a banquet and invite the poor and homeless (Luke 14:13) if you don’t have the means to do so? If you’re going to condemn rich people, take a look in the mirror. The fact that you have internet to read this article makes you a likely candidate to be in the wealthiest 20% of the world. Chances are you rank even higher than that.  How well-off do you have to be before it’s ungodly?  Just slightly better than yourself?

After Jesus’ statement about rich men, remember that he then goes on to say that it’s impossible for anyone to get saved – without God, that is.  Perhaps that was what he was driving at in the first place?  Keep in mind that God doesn’t bless you just for you – and He doesn’t have a limited budget.  Moses asks the Lord, “…Unless you go with us, what else will distinguish me and your people from all the other people on the face of the earth?” (Exodus 33:16)  Is it possible that the rich could use their influence to change the world?

But It’s Not Guaranteed

But, to those who think worldly riches and relaxation are our lot as Christians, consider that Jesus said “he who loves his life will lose it.” He basically says we’re supposed to despise money, and NOT to store up treasures on earth (Matthew 6:19, 24). Jesus even refused to even feed himself miraculously because apparently God had not permitted him to (Matthew 4:4). Are you that in touch with the Spirit of God – that you can give it all away at the drop of a hat? Christianity isn’t a picnic as much as a war:

“May a physician in plague-time take any more relaxation or recreation than is necessary for his life, when so many are expecting his help in a case of life and death? Will you stand by and see sinners gasping under the pangs of death, and say: “God doth not require me to make myself a drudge to save them?” Is this the voice of ministerial or Christian compassion or rather of sensual laziness and diabolical cruelty?” -Richard Baxter

Being rich isn’t wrong, it’s just harder. Bill Johnson said, “The greater test is not whether you give something away, but whether you can steward it well.”

What “Persecution” is Not

I must point out that I feel that the church applied the term “suffering for Jesus” to a lot of stuff that God can’t take the credit for.  I do believe that God wants people to live free of sickness and disease.  Check out the differentiation in James 5 between “have patience in suffering” and “prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well”. If this thought is new to you, it’s piggybacking off of some stuff I shared here.

I also don’t believe we are ever to lose our joy or God’s presence in our lives.  Paul and Silas were in prison and still giddy, weren’t they?

Finally, I think there’s a big difference between being “hated for the sake of the Son of Man” and being rejected we are under the influence of the “spirit of stupid”, as Kris Vallotton says.  Here’s a good way to gauge this: ask yourself if you are actually preaching and demonstrating like the apostles did, or like John G. Lake’s missionaries did in South Africa in the 1900’s (in one year, Lake buried 37 people who died of hunger after they chose to return to their mission work knowing there was no food or money left).   Does your poverty and suffering stem from sharing the Gospel, or have you just not taken God at His word to provide everything you need (2 Corinthians 9:8)?

You don’t just get points for suffering – God isn’t sadistic, He’s a good Father.  Remember, soldiers bring glory to their commander by winning glorious victories over the enemy!  Victory takes sacrifice, that’s all.

If you want to hear about some people who I feel are a more accurate representation of suffering for the Gospel nowadays, subscribe for free to Voice of the Martyrs magazine.  Also, study these verses from one of my favorite fiction authors, Randy Alcorn – and read his book Safely Home too!  And if you want to hear more about how God can provide everything you need for every good work, you’ll be encouraged by the stories of George Muller and Rees Howells.

Wrapping Up

Again, our assignment is to bring heaven to earth. So if your wealth helps you fulfill this assignment, fine! If your poverty helps, fine! But don’t judge everyone else who isn’t just like you. J.I. Packer said “A half truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth”. Rich people may be more challenged with worldly distractions (and ponzi schemes), but nowhere does Jesus condemn being wealthy in and of itself, just as he doesn’t condemn the poor.  My concern is that, on one side, the church has reacted to the bad stewardship of many rich people and created a wrong idea of “suffering for Christ”, but on the other side, much of what the church calls “the blessing of the Lord” is simply selfishness and an unwillingness to sacrifice comfort in order to share the Gospel.

Paul had a great conclusion about this whole thing, and I’ll leave it to him to wrap up.

“I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do everything through Him who gives me strength.” (Philippians 4:12)

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3 thoughts on “Suffering & Poverty vs Health & Wealth

  1. garnet

    I think I hear what you are saying.

    Man cannot serve two masters, one he will love, the other he will hate.

    Therefore you cannot serve both God and mammon (money).

    Whether poor or rich, we can fall into the trap of making it about money (serving money), when life is supposed to be about Jesus and following Him!

    I spent some time praying about this at one point in my walk, and the Lord posed this question to me:

    “Who is richer, the one with lots of money, or the one who invests what he has been given into the Kingdom of God?”

  2. admin

    That’s really good – captured it in a nutshell. Thanks for sharing!!

  3. earning a prophet's wage

    Disclaimer: I think I understand you in this post. It is possible that I do not.

    That being said:

    It seems that your point is that there is a backlash among some Christian folk in favor of poverty for Jesus against some other Christian folk who favor wealth for Jesus, and that the backlash is not thusly justified. The problem with wealth is not the wealth itself, but the use of and relation to it in some circumstances, but not all…. Therefore look closer and stop the backlashing….

    If that uderstanding is correct, I concur enough with it as put.

    Some points that seem fuzzy to me are regarding the rich cannot enter the kingdom of God. Your sentence was:

    So the Bible says that “a rich man cannot enter the Kingdom of God”

    I believe the text actually says it is easier for a camel to go… than a rich man to…. This actually supports the point you make (as I understand it) better than the sentence copied here.

    This stuff is right at the nub of my complaints with American Christianity. I believe we are largely greedy. I think our greed is a huge problem and gets a pass without hardly any mention on a regular basis. However, I still agree with your post, as I understand it. I just see it as one point among many that can help clarify the larger issues.

    I would note that you do not have to have money to be greedy! You might be in deep poverty and still be greedy. You might be rich and not greedy, though I figure that is truly a long shot exception that nearly all rich Christians are tempted to believe applies to them whether it does or not. As you pointed out, the fact that I can read this on a computer in my home is strong evidence that I am in the top 20% of wealthy people the world over, but I am tempted not to see myself that way or to see myself as not loving money.

    I am troubled by the word ‘Stewardship’ in general. I am currently wrestling with that concept. So to point it up in this comment box, I need to say I make this observation tenatively. I am still chewing on it. But…

    I am having a visceral reaction to it. I sense it is a word that greed can neatly hide behind. (Note: I said “can” here which is not to say that it does in all cases.) I have begun looking closer at the New Testament’s use of the word vs. that of many who toss it around when speaking of helping the poor. I have found a number of people who appeal to that word when citing texts about almsgiving in which the word (nor the concept to my mind) seems varified. But I do see these same people defending a position of cutting off the alms! What motivates that? Jesus? Someone else?

    I have come to learn from N.T.Wright (give credit where credit is due) that the idols of modern life are Money, Sex (lust), and Power. These things vie for our attention and action all the time in this society. They affect me deeply, and I strive to live for Jesus! Those who do not live for Jesus seem to be in the throes of these passions. Let’s not kid ourselves, money plays with our heads and hearts! I really think you cannot deny that willy-nilly.

    So the better question in that light is: What are you doing about it? How are you addressing the idolatrous temptations? This is a better question than: Are you in love with your money?

    I am quite sure that there is no problem, in Jesus’s mind, if you want to sell everything, give it to poor, and seek first his rule. I am sure that he tells us to give freely to those who ask, and to be cheerful givers. Love involves sharing. The early church lived a communist life. These things are all well documented in the NT. They are poorly documented in the American church.

    I would say that I have not denied stewardship a place here at all. And I know of some fine examples of very well-to-do Christians who give and share generously. I have even listened to some of them openly agonize about the pull their own wealth has in their hearts!

    So, I am all in favor of shedding light in all corners of these issues. I will not rush headlong into backlash or condemnation of the rich. But, I will point them to a giving lifestyle, a sharing lifestyle. And I will critique the lack of that. And I will aim to keep myself humble in the debate, able to learn and grow myself.

    Blessings… from Texas (a rich state btw)

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